[Gino Lebrun]

I agree with what you said Woussie.

I'm a big fan of the dance music from Belgium and also of the House Music.

I don't like the new Lasgo's and Kate Ryan's sounds (except Lasgo - All Night Long) but I find that Milk Inc, Sylver and Ian Van Dahl still make very good music.

Belgium can make good House. Just have to think about Paris Avenue, Basto or the lastest Peter Luts projects songs.

Woussie is right. House is slowly taking over the dance scene. Even Paul Oakenfold begins to make House music with his lastest song Faster Kill Pussycat.

[Snaggy]

okay, so I'm starting to notice the trend here is that most people here can't deal with change.

I'll admit, I love the trancy side of Ian Van Dahl, and Lasgo, it was what made me love them in the first place.

HOWEVER, to see an artist evolve with time is not going to make me completely write them off. AND I think making comments like 'this is the death of Ian Van Dahl' is a bit extreme. "Just A Girl" is a GREAT song, if they keep that up on the album instead of that "Movin' On" sound, I think we'll have a GREAT album on our hands as well.

and as for Lasgo, and everyone down-talking the "Far Away" album, okay, so I admit it, it wasn't as great as "Some Things", but have you actually listened to it all the way through? It is still a really good album. I mean, I can see how people would feel about songs like "All Night Long", and "Tonight" which obviously do not have that 'Lasgo' sound to them...but songs like "Surrender", "Deep In Your Heart", "Yesterday", "Tell Me", and "Still" I believe are among some of Lasgo's best work...and other songs such as "Only You" and "True", which didn't so much have the familiar Lasgo sound to them, were still really good songs, I don't really see what the big deal is.

I mean, Just look at Cascada, I'd rather see Lasgo and Ian Van Dahl do what they're doing than what Cascada is doing. Cascada is building her/their career on an album that has very little variety. I'm not really a huge fan of cd's where all 14 songs sound exactly alike.

[djn1]

Honestly, I think that "Far Away" was a much better album than "Some Things"... many songs in their first album were weak whereas nearly any song from the second one could have been released as a single...
What is important? Weak trance stuff or great dance or house tunes?
I really like Ian Van Dahl's new song because it's catchy and powerful, and maybe a trance version of it wouldn't sound as good.
The same applies to Milk Inc, Sylver or Jessy...
I totally agree with Snaggy

[Astral]

weak trance? trance is what made us love them in the first place, not every song has to be trance to be a great song but how can you say weak trance stuff?
and what the hell is wrong with 'Movin on' ?? the beat is good, sound is beautiful and the lyrics are powerfull
i agree that all this change is not a big deal, for example Sylver will always be Sylver, even if they start doing pop music or something, it doesn't matter, they have already done so many great songs and we all know they can do it again, what's good with music is that everything remains, it doesn't matter that a song is 5 or 10 years old, if it's good, it's good, i think 3-5 good songs on a new album is something realistic to expect, you can't all be satisfied
@Snaggy, you are contradicting yourself, you're saying that IVD should keep up the 'Just a girl' (and btw. yes, Just a Girl is a great song) sound while you're saying that Cascada is making all the songs the same, i think there should be something for everyone on a new album and that means lot's of different sounds, but with the rest of your post, i agree

[Snaggy]

@Snaggy, you are contradicting yourself, you're saying that IVD should keep up the 'Just a girl' (and btw. yes, Just a Girl is a great song) sound while you're saying that Cascada is making all the songs the same, i think there should be something for everyone on a new album and that means lot's of different sounds, but with the rest of your post, i agree

okay, let me re-word that, becuase I don't believe I was contradicting myself. Lets put it this way. When Ian Van Dahl released the first two singles, "Castles In The Sky", and "Will I?", both songs used similar elements, but had their own unique and distict sounds. Then followed ACE, their debut album which featured 12 or so more songs which also used similar elements which were used in the first two singles, however, the songs themselves had distinct and unique melodies as well that seperated them from one another. So what I'm saying is that if the songs from the next album use similar elements as "Just A Girl", but still have different melodies it could be a great album. On the other hand, on Cascada's debut album, uses that EXACT same irritating drumbeat in every songs, the same EXACT synths, even the exact same synth-lines sometimes, and hell, for the record, "Everytime We Touch", and "Wouldn't It Be Good" even have the EXACT same melody.....

[Astral]

i see, that makes more sence, still, Cascada did a good album but it got borring soon, the songs reminded me very much of Groove Coverage

[djn1]

weak trance? trance is what made us love them in the first place, not every song has to be trance to be a great song but how can you say weak trance stuff?

OK, maybe I got a bit misunderstood here as well. I did not say that all those bands were doing weak trance. I really really loved it when IVD, Lasgo & co. were releasing trance songs, and I still love listening to those songs. I'm just saying that unfortunately the first albums were far from reaching the level of the singles. With time, their songwriting has improved a lot but they have shed their trance sound, then so be it... I just said I prefer to see a band focusing on having good songs, however different, rather than sticking to one style only.

Don't get me wrong I love Belgian dance music, trancy or not... I hope my position is clearer now.

[Astral]

ok, with that i agree
judging by 'Movin on' and 'Just a Girl' i think we can expect a great album, i just hope that what you described doesn't happen, meaning the singles were way better quality than the rest of the songs on the album

[woussie]

Cascada released one good song (Evertime We Touch) and then they made a full album with the exact same sound ... not to mention that almost all of their songs are covers ... i really would be suprised if Cascada is ever going to release another album, and i suppose their "popularity" will be over in no time ... so let's not compare Ian van Dahl and Cascada please.

"Just A Girl" is great, i agree, and i'm looking forward to their album - i must admit i judged too soon when i heard the 30 sec samples ... now i love the song, as much as their trance releases like "I Can't Let You Go" and "Where Are You Now" ...

"Far Away was good too ... but imo "Hold Me Now" isn't. If they released "Yesterday" or "Deep In Your Heart", i would maybe like it too, but now, they release exactly the worst song of the album ... and i have to judge their latest releases, because the release of "Far Away" is almost 2 years ago ... for me, Lasgo's future is unsure, but that doesn't mean they can't make another great album, i only doubt it

[Snaggy]

Cascada released one good song (Evertime We Touch) and then they made a full album with the exact same sound ... not to mention that almost all of their songs are covers ... i really would be suprised if Cascada is ever going to release another album, and i suppose their "popularity" will be over in no time ... so let's not compare Ian van Dahl and Cascada please.

okay, so my point with the Cascada and Ian Van Dahl comparison was to prove, there is no competition between the two, no matter what, Ian Van Dahl would always win, I mean, two albums, still all original recordings, intelligent lead singer with a great voice who also writes her own songs? I totally agree with you, I would be surprised to see another Cascada album as well.

[djn1]

judging by 'Movin on' and 'Just a Girl' i think we can expect a great album, i just hope that what you described doesn't happen, meaning the singles were way better quality than the rest of the songs on the album

I hope so too. But you know, the second album was absolutely fantastic and it really lived up to everyone's expectations, contrary to "Ace", so I don't see why things should go wrong for the new album. By the way, do you realize that "Castles In The Sky" was first released 6 years ago now? Well done guys...

[zaro]

Now that this topic is going way off track (yet another one ) , just thought to give my opinion about some given quotes.

okay, so I'm starting to notice the trend here is that most people here can't deal with change.

I can , but i don't want it (like i can do something about it).I just like their older style more (i mean IVD and lasgo , don't know about milk inc.'s direction).

I mean, Just look at Cascada, I'd rather see Lasgo and Ian Van Dahl do what they're doing than what Cascada is doing. Cascada is building her/their career on an album that has very little variety. I'm not really a huge fan of cd's where all 14 songs sound exactly alike.

Cascada is what i call crap ,boring from begin untill the end.Covering at it's worst.You can give me 'trinity - everytime we touch' and 'Mythos N Watergate - Neverending Dream(Formania Mix)' , thank you.

Trance is just becoming less popular, house is slowly taking over the dance scene ... real trance artists like Gabriel and Dresden, Ferry Corsten, etc. are producing a more house-trance sound ...

My question : why , who says that? ... on what is this based ? marketing ?
From what i hear/read is that producers wanna change style theirself..."evolve" as they would call it , bullshit...Trance is becoming less popular...it all sounds chitchat to me.

It's not that Peter and David can't produce trance ... they just don't want to. And putting Christophe and Erik in charge again ... i don't think that's the solution. Where are they ? They haven't released a thing in 3-4 years ... believe me, there's a reason.

Christophe Chantzis and Erik Vanspauwen released : 'one more angel - breathe' in 2005 (http://www.discogs.com/release/579326).And they produced a couple of tracks from the 'lost & found' album in 2004.So 3-4 years is a little exaggerated .

[Moldyketchup]

Hmm...I like this song, it's catchy, but I like movin' on a bit better. maybe this new song will warm up to me a little later on.
At this point I will settle for any vocal trance that is being produced, as long as I dont have to listen to any rap and hiphop.

I am so sick of people tell me how rap/hiphop is the best, here in the states. ugh.

[zaro]

Now something more or less on topic .


I find this a very interesting cover but what do you see ?
a) Annemie sleeping (eyes closed)
b) Annemie staring at you from the corner of her eyes

I see both , of course .That's the reason i ask what you see.

[Snaggy]

what do I see when I look at that cover?

I see a picture that looks strangely like something from the "Lost & Found" album. Did they start recording a new album and forget to take new pictures?