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Postby dave » Tue Dec 04, 2007 3:02 am

I was going to say before you start saying some of Beligum's music groups have bad live vocals have you ever listened to Jessy belt it out. My god she has a strong voice. I love it.

I know Silvy can sing quite well too. ;-)

I wanted to like Cascada when I heard Everytime We Touch but I tell you what has completely turned me off. It's the music. It's extremely lazy. When I presented the first album (yes I did buy it!) to a group of friends they couldn't believe it. It used the exact same dance beat in almost every song. Seriously listen it's the exact same. This is why Cascada is nowhere near the level of IVD, Lasgo, Milk Inc, and Sylver.

It makes me sad that the days of this style of dance music seems to be disappearing. That is why I personally am thankful of September from Sweden. She while sounding more house and disco at least throws in some unique sounds and has far less covers. Great stuff.
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Postby mtolno88 » Tue Dec 04, 2007 1:58 pm

dave wrote:I was going to say before you start saying some of Beligum's music groups have bad live vocals have you ever listened to Jessy belt it out. My god she has a strong voice. I love it.


i must say, jessy is a pretty good vocalist compared to many belgian singers, but she still is not... "great" sometimes her performances seem really good and other times i wonder why she even bothers to sing live...

dave wrote:I know Silvy can sing quite well too. ;-)


as far as silvy goes, i know she has wonderful live vocals! that's why i didn't mention her when i listed people i felt were not very good. i have a lot of respect for silvy. she is absolutely brilliant!

dave wrote:It makes me sad that the days of this style of dance music seems to be disappearing. That is why I personally am thankful of September from Sweden. She while sounding more house and disco at least throws in some unique sounds and has far less covers. Great stuff.


now i have to say... that i think the country with the best dance/house music right now is sweden. there are some wonderful musicians coming from there! e-type, da buzz, and my personaly favorite, SEPTEMBER! all three of them are amazing live performers. i just think that sweden is currently kicking the rest of the world's butt in terms of dance music right now! all three groups released new albums this year and all three of those albums were just amazing
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Postby nojazzplease » Tue Dec 04, 2007 10:52 pm

mtolno88 wrote:now i have to say... that i think the country with the best dance/house music right now is sweden. there are some wonderful musicians coming from there! e-type, da buzz, and my personaly favorite, SEPTEMBER!

I dont agree to that. In sweden we record Dabuzz as a musical joke - 20 or 30 songs just the same sound, just the same rhytm, just the same vocals ( do you want to be with me, I want to be with you ) Bah!
They call their music popdance - and thats not Vocal Trance.
- - Belgian Vocal Trance still rulezzz. - -
E-Type were at the top 12 years ago but now?? Even Pat Crimson is more actual. E-types live performances are real bad. An arabian lady that cannot sing shaking enormously big plastic boobs to the music.
The studiosinger girl with the strong and absolutely fantastic voice you can hear in the E-type music is not even mensioned with her name on the CD cover.
Cascada easily beats the swedish commercial junkpop.
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Postby musiklover » Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:49 am

nojazzplease wrote:E-Type were at the top 12 years ago but now??


But now he has a gold record with the first single of Eurotopia (wich was #1 in the Swedish charts) and the album entered at the TOP 10 of the Swedish chart. You can like it or not, but don't deny the evidence.
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Postby nojazzplease » Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:35 am

musiklover wrote:But now he has a gold record with the first single of Eurotopia (wich was #1 in the Swedish charts) and the album entered at the TOP 10 of the Swedish chart. You can like it or not, but don't deny the evidence.

Gold record or top 10 chart doesnt mean anything. Its all about money! The strongly centralized swedish record industri want to milk maximum money out of their own cheap productions. Have you ever heard Milk Ink or Sylver played in swedish radio? I havent. One cannot replace Vocal trance with cheap commercial junkpop.
If you think E-types live performance is amazing Ive got news for you!
Dolly Parton is coming to sweden - she also have plastic boobs :lol:
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Postby musiklover » Wed Dec 05, 2007 7:32 pm

nojazzplease wrote:
musiklover wrote:But now he has a gold record with the first single of Eurotopia (wich was #1 in the Swedish charts) and the album entered at the TOP 10 of the Swedish chart. You can like it or not, but don't deny the evidence.

Gold record or top 10 chart doesnt mean anything. Its all about money! The strongly centralized swedish record industri want to milk maximum money out of their own cheap productions. Have you ever heard Milk Ink or Sylver played in swedish radio? I havent. One cannot replace Vocal trance with cheap commercial junkpop.
If you think E-types live performance is amazing Ive got news for you!
Dolly Parton is coming to sweden - she also have plastic boobs :lol:


I bought my first dance record 15 years ago, and nowadays I have more of 400 different dance style cd's... so please don't give me boring (or sarcastic) lessons of music. If you only like belgian dance/trance and you can't respect other styles I think the problem is yours.

And who said E-type live performances are good? I only said he is gold in Sweden (and that's a fact... you can like it or not, but it's a fact), so you can consider his music dead because people is still buying his music and not only in Sweden.
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Postby trance mouse » Thu Dec 06, 2007 2:42 am

Cascada is one of the projects that gives bad reputation to european dance music, so more reasons for Americans to call it: eurotrash. :cry:
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Postby nojazzplease » Thu Dec 06, 2007 11:18 am

trance mouse wrote:Cascada is one of the projects that gives bad reputation to european dance music, so more reasons for Americans to call it: eurotrash. :cry:

Yes Casacada isnt the best european music. its the same boring ompa-ompa style as Groove Coverage. If you heard one song you have heard them all. Yankees are swimming in trash music all day so I dont think Cascada is worse than the regular yankee trash music. US music industri is in a very deep crisis, they havent produced anything new since the babbling rap-idiots appeared about 15 years ago. The US music industri even forces one of their more wellknown singers to show up without panties to get some publicity so they must be fully desperate. If no publicity - no money!
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Postby zaro » Thu Dec 06, 2007 10:11 pm

For me it isn't about the singer (on the contrary Natalie Horner has a good voice) it's the producer behind the project ...give Natalie another producer , a belgian one maybe :P. That would make a difference in appreciation of 'cascada'.
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Postby nojazzplease » Fri Dec 07, 2007 6:40 pm

zaro wrote:For me it isn't about the singer (on the contrary Natalie Horner has a good voice) it's the producer behind the project ...give Natalie another producer , a belgian one maybe :P. That would make a difference in appreciation of 'cascada'.

I fully agree! Natalie is a great singer. But where to get good belgian (or european) dance producers now. It would be interesting if for example Dj Tatana got the opportunity to work with a belgian artist as Caitlin , Evi or Natalie. The outcome would not sound like a contribution to the Eurovision Song Contest at least. I fancy the cover of Silence by Dj Tatana ft Sarah Vieth http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaUUr4d2Uq8
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Postby dave » Sat Dec 08, 2007 2:02 am

And I agree as well. Wasn't Natalie the singer for Diamond's "Reason" now if she could get back doing that type of music she would be huge and not laughed at. The current producers are lazy at producing dance music....
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Postby mtolno88 » Sat Dec 08, 2007 9:49 pm

dave wrote:And I agree as well. Wasn't Natalie the singer for Diamond's "Reason" now if she could get back doing that type of music she would be huge and not laughed at. The current producers are lazy at producing dance music....


whether you like her music or not it is successful. and as far as her being "laughed at"... considering Natalie and Cascada just performed at the World Music Awards AND won one... I don't think she's considered a joke.
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Postby musiklover » Sun Dec 09, 2007 11:38 am

mtolno88 wrote:considering Natalie and Cascada just performed at the World Music Awards AND won one... I don't think she's considered a joke.


She won the award for being the best German selling act during last year. So if Cascada sells it's because people buy.

Some updated charts:

Sweden: #5 (#5-#8-#5)
UK Single Charts: #16 ONLY WITH DOWNLOADS, so surely next week will be in the TOP 10.
UK Album Charts: #12 being the best entry in the UK album chart this week.

I have read that Cascada is the only dance project with 2 top 20 albums in the same year in the UK History Chart, so congratulations for her.
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